musemostwanted | Long shot is long.

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Long shot is long.

Your Muse: Harry Osborn
Muse wanted: I would kill for a Norman Osborn, but Peter Parker, Mary Jane Watson, and Otto Octavius would be really awesome, too.

I'd also love the opportunity to play across Spidey characters from other universes (616, Ultimate, TASM films, any of 'em!) for optimal fun and mindfuckery.
Community: I play him at

tartarusnet, but PSLs and

bakerstreet are good, too.
Fandom: Spider-man (Raimi)
Canon or AU: Mostly canon, but I'm always up for AUing things.
Medium: Movie
Contact via: Commenting here or PMing this journal is fine.

The game I have him in is a horror game (with tons of comic book characters, I might add) set in the Greek version of the Underworld where a vengeful, crazy goddess regularly torments them. The game itself has a pretty even balance between player-driven and mod-driven plots. If that sounds like your cup of tea, I'd love to have castmates!

Either way, I'm just really interested in playing out and exploring relationships with Spider-man characters, and getting to explore Harry's character through them. Maybe even end up fleshing out a whole new story. He ends up being taken from the second movie by default where he's pre-Goblin but still bitter about everything, but I'm definitely interested in playing him out as the Goblin as well. I love conflict as much as I love character development, and since he never got the opportunity to be a real villain in canon, I'd really enjoy playing that aspect of him, too.

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Um... just wow. Okay, that is prettier by far than anything I was likely to come up with. Pretty but simple and clean. I likes. 8D

Yeeeah, might have to look into the novelization, although I've heard it has its good and bad points. Still might be useful insight anyway. Might put some birthday money down on that.

Movie Otto isn't exactly in full villain mode right now, but we'll see how that evolves. I think I'd like to take him in that direction, but in a definite slow fall. I'm thinking the thread we've got going looks like it's coming to a natural conclusion, which is okay since we have a comm up to continue that plot via later threads?

Oh, thank you! I'm glad you like it.

Well, if it helps, I can vouch for it being well-written, but as with any novelization, it does have some drawbacks, but it helps to give you good ideas! The writing in the Harry one wasn't great, but it had some great ideas and background that I decided to incorporate, so hopefully the novelization can do the same for you! And happy early/belated birthday to you. c:

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm hoping to nudge Harry in that direction, too. And yep, that's what I was thinking. I can do this post, and then maybe we can start up a new one on the comm. Maybe like... setting up the battle grounds, and Harry's going to want to practice maneuvering in there but that can be handwaved unless Otto wants to prepare too, detailing their sabotaging, orrr... if the Peter is up for it, we can maybe do a battle scene.

Any preferences?

Took the day off work, and working on Halloween costume atm but I'll try to work on the comm a little before the day is out. Your shiny banner stays, though, definitely.

Well written is worth a lot! My birthday is actually today, so I may do an Amazon shopping trip this afternoon! Even if I don't like everything in the portrayal of Otto, the novelization might give some useful insights. I have heard the actuators actually talk to him, in that.

I think I will do some little writing joining-up-bits later today, and post something in the comm with links to tie it all together. Would there be security on hand at the warehouse that Otto needs to sneak around to get there? A thread with them setting up would be fine, since the place hasn't been cleared out yet, Otto will be veeery interested in what's stored there already.

I'm trying to work out how to make that thread and the one I have going with Peter fit, because if that one happens a few days later, the next time Otto and Harry meet up he would probably give him a heads-up that Peter is looking for him... and knows that Otto is back from the dead. Oops.

Oh, awesome! May I be nosy and ask what you are being for Halloween? Also, I am more than happy to help out there, whether it be writing stuff up or trying to put together a layout for the journal itself. I thought about maybe making up a taken characters page or like... a synopsis of stuff that's happened in the comm so far. Not sure. :|a

Well, then a very happy birthday to you! I hope you have a good one. And that was always my philosophy for stuff I read for the Osborns.

Since it's been abandoned, not much, and it's probably been dressed up to look inconspicuous (like the pulse weaponry testing grounds I mentioned were hidden sorta underground-ish in a normal-looking warehouse) so Oscorp wouldn't have to worry about anyone getting too curious. The warehouse itself is probably locked up in a mundane fashion, with the entrance to the testing grounds being hidden by an elevator or a cliche bookcase/wall/panel trick or something like that that either he could have read about on the file or Harry would have told him. I mean... Shocker got in one of them without issue, so Ock won't have anything to worry about lol. But yeah, I'll come up with something that Oscorp may have been testing, unless you already had an idea!

Ah yes, that is a bit tricky! Shame on you, Otto. No, I kid, I'm cool with whatever! Harry will be giving him the stink face the entire time (probably the one in that icon there), but if you decide to do it that way, he'll probably reason that they could still use that to their advantage. Make Peter think Ock thought about what he said and wants to just talk/help, and then bam! Ambush and all the back-stabbing.

I'm being a steampunk plague doctor, so that's kind of hard to describe. Working on a vest right now, except the sewing machine is being bratty so I'm taking a break.
Will try to work on the comm tonight or tomorrow, I'm not sure if a taken characters page is an issue yet, but it might be good to have a list just in case the comm (hopefully) grows. I was hoping we'd get some discussion on the ooc post I put up there, so we can all agree on a starting point or something.

I didn't have anything specific in mind, Otto just is going to be curious about whatever tech Oscorp has laying around, be it for bouncing off their ideas or scoping out what could be turned against him later on. As long as there's no actual guards there, he can have gotten security info from the laptop earlier and/or show off bypassing it to get in.

The whole pretending to listen to Peter thing is not a bad idea, and Otto just might be devious enough to try it. Later though, because the mention of Rosie kind of threw off any nefarious planning he may have thought of. Poor guy needs some closure on that issue still. His wife is a sore point.

That sounds really cool all the same. I love when people get super creative and artsy with their costumes.

Yeah, I didn't think so either, my mind is just kind of "what can I code and make pretty 8D". My priorities are fantastic. Oop, I didn't realize you wanted to start up a conversation there, my bad. I'll go comment and hopefully the Peter will hop in!

Awesome, then I'll give an indication of what's in there. The awesome thing about the Spider-Man video games is that they give some pretty in-depth views of what goes on at Oscorp and the kind of technology they have, so I can have fun with that lol. Also, can I just say I am so pleased and amused that you/Otto noticed how piss poor Harry is at thinking things through when he's tunnel vision on something? Like... yes, let's give Otto tritium even though you know he can blow up half the city, and then let's throw half a dozen razor bats down a really tiny alleyway where they can come back and hit you. ALL TO KILL SPIDER-MAN. And now he's leaving his laptop open and crap and I'm just like, "Sigh. Oh, Harry. You're not going to earn Otto's respect this way." It's just sad because Harry can be smart when he applies himself (which is why I like to say he designed the suit and the new glider himself, he just has the stuff made somewhere else since he's obviously no scientist), but he gets so tunnel vision on one thing, he tends not to see the big picture haha. But yes, I got a good laugh out of Otto's remark in your post about how simple that was.

Poor Otto. :c I read that thread, loved the bit about how Rosie wouldn't want that life for Otto because I was just like, "Ow. This can only go badly."

I am definitely an artsy type. Will link my doc ock art on my journal when I get back to it (after costume is done).

No problem, just I'm the only one posting in the comm thus far. But! New post is up and ready for you.

Otto is probably going to look down on Harry no matter what, and that's not Harry's fault. He is pretty convinced of his own intellectual superiority and that's nothing new. Also I have seen fics where the fusion reactor failed because either a) Harry gave him some kind of sub-standard tritium (does that somehow exist?) or b) a corporate espionage/mole in OsCorp effed with the final calculations the thing was built off of. Both those scenarios are people trying to prove Otto's idea was flawless, of course, which I'm not sure I totally buy anyways, but they are potential plotbunnies. Especially the mole in Oscorp one, because that could lead to trouble for Harry down the road.

Otto definitely needs some closure on Rosie's death. He may find it in bad ways, by blaming it all on somebody else, but, y'know. Supervillain?

I'd love to see that, that sounds really cool. c:

Yeahhh, I'm not really sure what to contribute, aside from coming up with some general rules/guidelines to go by for anyone who might want to join up with the shenanigans. Like, basically stuff we established like how we're meshing universes, only one incarnation of each character, and so on.

Hahaha, yeah, I get that. Those are some interesting ideas, though! I don't think sub-standard tritium is even a thing, no, especially since it's so rare to begin with, but the mole thing would be baaad. And by bad, I mean, it could be a really fun thing to play with! Those kinds of possibilities are always interesting, I think, and what RP is all about.

That's how supervillains roll. Jump to conclusions, blame other people, kill those other people, closure.

I can link you to Halloween costume photos once I have some, too. My earlier sketches of movieverse Doc Ock are here on DA, and a 616/comic Ock here.
I was working on a bigger full-body actiony movie Ock pic and I effed up, so it's on hold until I feel motivated enough to fix it with white paint and finish the inking.

We probably should have a general rules/guidelines post but I didn't want to write that up without input.

Substandard 'super-rare unobtainium there's-only-x-amount--in-the-whole-world struck me as kind of unlikely, yeah. Corporate espionage? Way more plausible. Of course, OsCorp might have moles somewhere else in return.

Exactly! This must be in the supervillain handbook or something.

You should just know that my jaw dropped through the floor, because holy smokes, those are AMAZING. You are a fantastic artist. If I didn't know any better, I'd say that was official art from the movie/comics. Seriously. It inspires me to practice drawing more! I'd love to see the costume, too.

Totally understandable. We can talk about that with Peter!mun too.

Ohhh yeah, especially considering how, uh... ambitious Norman could be. I could see that being something he established after almost getting kicked out of his own company, and likewise, there are a lot of people who wanted/want to see Oscorp go out of business and would probably go out of their way to try and take it down from the inside.

And in chapter two, how to do an evil laugh as well as tips on how to monologue so that you inadvertently sabotage your own plans. :D

Aww, thanks! I've never found a way to make a living off it, but art is kind of what I do. I have this shiny graphic design degree I've never been able to make much use of beyond a little freelancing, and now I'm wishing I'd found a way to pursue illustration instead.

It's kind of a shame that Harry fails at running his father's company because he doesn't come by being cutthroat and devious naturally. Poor Harry, nice guy at heart who just happened to have a supervillain for a father, who had to then twist him around to his way of things. Anyways! Yes, corporate espionage could make for some interesting underlying plotness, ultimately.

Hey now, Otto doesn't monologue so much as echo what his actuators are saying... he's got an excuse!

Well, I sincerely hope you do! I know it's probably not my place to say, but even without a degree, I'd say send in portfolios and applications in to places that interest you if you haven't already. You never know! And yeah, art seems like an unfortunately hard field to get into. ): I am an artsy type myself, but I opted to go for a degree in web design since I'm too afraid that graphic design alone won't cut it and people always need coding done.

And just think, 616!Norman is even worse. That's probably what makes Harry one of my favorite characters, though. He's not inherently evil, but he ends up being kind of a wild card because he always seems to be pulled in so many directions. I love having a character with that much potential for so many different things, because it all depends on who he's around and the circumstances. And yes! Whenever/if ever you decide to incorporate it, feel free!

Oh right, that's more Gobby's area of expertise. ...I don't think movie!Otto ever did any evil laughs either, did he? I suddenly feel like a bad Spidey fan for not being able to remember hahaha. Though I must say that I am eternally disappointed that Harry never did a Goblin cackle in the third movie.

Well thank you! I'm old enough now that I'm not sure I'm looking to start out a new career, but I don't know, maybe I should be... I really don't have any coding knowledge, I was mostly self-taught in html but what I know is so outdated now. I work at a veterinary clinic and do art in my free time, these days. Working around fuzzy animals all day isn't so bad, either. Life takes you places you never expected to wind up.

616!Otto is a bigger psychological train wreck than the movie version, with fewer redeemable qualities, although I can see an appeal to playing him, too. Harry is too much of a puzzle for me. Poor kid's practically got split personalities, but I guess that runs in the family...

I distinctly remember Otto doing at least one 'Hah!' when he got a hit in on Spidey, sort of a short bark of a laugh at success, but that's about it. He is not, I think, a maniacal laughter kind of guy. He's too calm and controlled for that, or at least wants to put on the appearance that he is.

I am of the opinion you should never stop pursuing stuff that makes you happy, and you obviously have a tremendous talent for it. Still, that's not a bad place to end up at all! And you're very right about that. I suppose only time will tell where I'll end up too. As for coding, I have extensive knowledge on HTML and CSS, and that was all self-taught through picking apart other peoples' codes. I'm trying to do that with some other languages now to prepare myself for some future classes. I imagine you can do the same! At the very least, it's very satisfying to be able to build your own code for funtiems.

He seems like he'd be a fun character, and I can tell the author of that 616!Spidey novel I was reading had fun writing him and some of the other Sinister Six, too. LOL! I laughed way harder than I should have at ridiculous o' clock in the morning, oops. Well, in all fairness to movie Norman, he wasn't really a psycho until he took the Goblin serum and at least he actually seems to care about his son. He's just... really blind to how much his expectations and distance have messed with him. Hopefully I do alright with him, though. I always worry about being too wishy-washy or poorly written, but I feel like I understand him pretty well. Maybe it just depends on the person, because I could never imagine being able to pull off Otto, but he seems to come to you effortlessly, and I'm so impressed!

Ah, that's right. In the bank! No, you're right, he's better at the snarky one-liners. The "Butterfingers!" thing still gets me whenever he drops Aunt May off a building. That was perfect.

I like art, but sometimes I find myself liking it less when I'm doing commissions and stuff, so I guess that's where my hesitation comes in these days. But thank you for all the compliments!
Coding seems in higher demand these days, and I have a roommate who makes good money doing that, so best of luck! It's a useful thing to be good at!

I really need to go buy that book... but yeah, I think we all latch onto characters because there's something there we identify with, some kind of hook, so it varies from one person to another what character they're drawn toward. I'm not saying I know what it is about Otto that's my hook, but he makes sense to me on a deeper level than the other characters, so there you go.

Otto definitely has the snark! He's a wiseass, maybe that's part of why I like him! XD

That makes sense! It's kind of more fun to draw and make stuff for yourself, since you're already interested in it, than to make stuff for others that you may or may not be interested in. But certainly, I'm just speaking the truth. c: Thanks for the well wishes, too.

It is... Secret of the Sinister Six by Adam-Troy Castro. It's actually part of a series, but you don't have to read any of the others for it to make sense. You get adequate summaries of what's happened previously. I had a copy gifted to me without having read any of the others and I never got lost. You'll have to let me know if you ever read it! But yeah, I agree with you totally on that, about identifying with a character in some form or another that draws us to them, and it's actually pretty cool that someone else out there thinks the same way.

Hahaha, that is entirely possible! He and Peter ought to have a wiseass battle. That's what I think.

Well, always. Because funtiems are better than worktiems. Still, if I do want to make a living off my art I figure I need to suck it up and be okay with that.

We're still talking about a novel, not a comic? Or is it a novelization of a comic? Clearly there is more stuff out there than I was aware of...

I kind of figured they have wiseass battles while they try to smack each other around? ;D

I think it's something all of us art types have to get used to lol. If I had the money, I'd commission something right now!

Yep! It's a novel. It's kind of its own original story that branches off from the 616 universe. So... it's not technically 616 canon, it's more like an AU. And yeah, there is tons of stuff out there. I'm always on the hunt for Spidey stuff, so I've been known to bump into obscure things sometimes.

True! I couldn't remember much wisecracking battles, it was mostly Otto doing most of it, but then, Peter spent much of his fights with Ock all, "AUNT MAY, NO. )8 MARY JANE, NO. )8" I can forgive him for that.

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